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My summary of the thread: there is fire danger in Li-Ion storage but

Phase 1 of Vistra followed very old practices that are no longer used.

Modern battery storage practices deploy batteries into containers that have their own fire suppression mechanisms.

These containers are set in open spaces

The containers are separate enough from each other that if a fire happened, it would not propagate to other containers.

Modern Li-Ion batteries are based on LFP chemistry which has better thermal properties than the old NMC chemistry.

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Eduardo Pelegri-Llopart's avatar

Adding a note here apropos the ongoing fire on Moss Landing, CA.

This post on LinkedIn is very useful https://www.linkedin.com/posts/mattpaiss_for-those-interested-in-the-recent-fire-in-activity-7286081051720925184-v5LN/

Quoted from there:

There are two separate owners at this location, PG&E and Vistra Energy. PG&E owns a 182MW BESS with outdoor Telsa Megapacks (Elkhorn BESS). Vistra has 3 separate BESS installations installed in phases.

Phase 1 was installed in 2020 in the old turbine house from when Moss Landing was an oil fired power plant. That building houses approximately 5,000 open battery racks (300MW) with various fire detection and water-based suppression systems. This is the building that experienced the fire last night. Full damage assessment will not be clear for several days until UAV can enter the building for recon.

Phase 2 was a newly constructed metal building with 100 MW of the same open racks and protection systems installed.

Phase 3 was 350 MW of outdoor enclosures with the same racks installed inside each.

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